## Linda French
Global Head of Sustainability Policy and Regulation
So I lead the Firm's global engagement on climate and sustainability-related financial policy and regulation, which, I think it's important to make that distinction: it's financial policy and regulation. This very much looks like, for example, disclosure, where we're seeing a lot of policymaker and regulatory interest globally in corporate disclosure related to sustainability and climate issues. Bank-related disclosure, for example: also seeing a lot of banking regulators looking globally at how banks are managing climate risk. The degree to which banking regulators should be overseeing our decarbonization targets and our strategy on climate. Also seeing increasing interest from regulators around the concept of transition finance. So how are banks deploying capital in support of transition and where have the barriers kind of been and blockers with respect to deploying that finance? And then also voluntary carbon markets — a lot of regulatory interest of there as well.
So, the dual mandate is really around, on the one hand, externally making sure that we are positioned to be a constructive voice as regulators are thinking about how to achieve policy objectives in a way that is well-tailored and that also works for when you're thinking about us as this global financial institution, operating in all these different jurisdictions and needing to have a cohesive, global coordinated view of what that looks like and all those different moving pieces. And then at the same time, from the internal perspective, working across stakeholders, internally, to be able to really deeply understand the implications of new proposed rules or regulatory trends, because we need to both be able to communicate that feedback to the regulators — but also so that as the Firm, we're prepared in terms of regulatory and direction of travel. And no one is surprised kind of when a final rule comes out. And that's where, too, I think it's important to flag my dual-reporting structure, where I report to the Global Head of Sustainability. And then also with a dotted line to the Global Head of Regulatory Policy in Michelle's organization. So bringing that together, how we're thinking as a Firm about our sustainability strategy and also how we are thinking about that engagement with the policy and regulatory dialogue. [...] ## Linda French
Global Head of Sustainability Policy and Regulation
Well, having worked at a trade association also and spending a lot of time with our trade associations, they play an incredibly important role in the overall regulatory policy and process. Because if you're thinking about it: the regulator doesn't want feedback from thousands of individual companies. What they want is consolidated feedback from different constituencies that they can take. And then in a way, consider, as they're looking at finalizing a rule. And trade associations also have a lot of in-house niche expertise. That's really important. Thinking about the resources that are required to write, as a Firm, our own comment letter, for example, on a proposed regulation versus working with our trade associations. And them, also, I think it's important to flag that using our own voice can sometimes be counterproductive. And that's where, to state the obvious, climate-related financial regulation is heavily politicized. And there's often this assumption that any climate-related financial regulation is good for Net Zero outcomes. When at the end of the day: it's financial regulation. And like any other financial regulation where regulators are going to get some of it right, they're going to get some of it wrong. And they're trying to achieve a policy objective, but they don't necessarily know exactly how to get there. And they really need that feedback. And so thinking about the very broad spectrum of trade associations that we work with, and for some of them, we are the core constituency. And then there are others where we are very much not the core constituency. And we're one of many, many voices. So, as we're thinking about how to articulate issues and considerations for regulators, we are very much thinking about which trades represent which constituencies and working with them, with that in mind. [...] ## Linda French
Global Head of Sustainability Policy and Regulation
And that's where I think there is this common misconception that we can or should have all of our trades represent our voice exactly. And versus when you're looking across, again, at who is the core constituency of a trade. And I think a good example is our U.S. banking trades. So, we're a member of three U.S. banking trades. You have the Financial Services Forum, which is the U.S. G-SIBs. We are their core constituency. We have a very strong voice. Then you have Bank Policy Institute, BPI. They represent a broader tent, including a number of foreign banks. So we have a seat at that table, but at the same time, there are still a lot of different interests kind of in the mix there. And then, third, you have American Bankers Association, ABA. They represent all the banks in the U.S. and they are really the voice of the regional and smaller banks. So, thinking about it: we would not actually ask ABA to be our voice on something in a way that would not be representing their smaller or regional bank members. Because it is important that the regulator hears that feedback from the regional and smaller banks, even if it's feedback that is tough, that the regulator doesn't want to hear, because that's an important part of the process.
I think the one other thing that I want to mention, because I hear this come up a lot on my end, is this idea of ensuring alignment with our publicly stated goals on climate and this misconception that climate-related financial regulation can somehow be deemed to be aligned with 1.5 degrees or not aligned. And, I don't know that that's possible to do because not all financial climate-related financial regulation is actually well-tailored to deliver on the intended policy objective. And, just as one example we've seen — green taxonomies, globally, that were intended to increase investment in green economic activity — that have not achieved that objective and have instead resulted in compliance exercises that have diverted company resources away from pursuing sustainability outcomes. So I think it's not as simple and straightforward as it's often perceived to be. And instead, the way that we're thinking about it is: we need to deeply understand what are the implications of this regulation at the same time as looking at our strategy on climate and figuring out kind of where we can provide feedback around better achieving the intended policy objectives. [...] ## Stacey Friedman
Executive Vice President and General Counsel, JPMorgan Chase & Co.
Good morning and thank you for joining us today. Environmental, social and governance-related matters have been a growing area of interest for our investors and the diverse set of our stakeholders. Our investors and stakeholders have wide-ranging views on these matters. So today, I'd like to outline our Firm's approach in the context of how we conduct our business, how we think about policy in this area and how we engage with our shareholders.
On the business side, our long-term investors know us well. JPMorgan provides financials services for individuals and industries across geographies. We proudly serve more than 80 million households, 6.4 million small businesses in the United States and hundreds of thousands of companies in critical economic sectors. And we do not make decisions based on political or social agendas. We deal in facts. We work with shareholders, clients, customers and communities to fulfill banking's essential purpose of helping people, businesses of all sizes and vital institutions like schools, hospitals and governments, achieve their goals. We do not make our decisions on who we're going to work with or who we're not going to work with because of political, social or religious viewpoints, period.
As for sustainability, we aim to support inclusive, sustainable economic growth because we believe that our businesses thrive when all communities we serve do the same. We strive to build this actual commitment into our Firm's governance, into our structures, through oversight, through management and a culture of accountability. So, for example, when you look at our target, like our $2.5 trillion Sustainable Development Target, we got to that because we independently assessed what's reasonable, what's achievable, what will serve the best interests of our businesses and our clients, and then as we've worked against that target, we've continuously measured, monitored and assessed our progress and adjusted as the landscape for sustainable development evolves. And we work with a broad range of organizations that advance various interests every day.
At the end of the day, however, our decisions are always made independently. We don't boycott. We decide where and how to compete by assessing risk and opportunity. And the decisions we make are in service of the long-term interest of our Firm and its shareholders.
Moving to the more macro view, we take the same approach when thinking about policy. We believe that markets and economies of all sizes benefit when free and fair enterprise thrives. That creates innovation, that creates competition, it maximizes shareholder value. And we believe that policies that bring together free enterprise to help achieve sustainability with government and other participants, that's how we achieve our goals. We do not believe in weaponizing businesses to advance social or political agendas. When that happens, it's often the communities and customers who suffer, and that's why we believe the best answers reside in engagement in discourse over policy. We believe that we are most successful when we're working closely with government and other stakeholders. And indeed, throughout history, we've engaged with officials from all parties, companies in all industries and shareholders of all stripes in an effort to address the world's and our company's most pressing needs.
And we value engagement not just in policy, but on the shareholder front. Our Board and senior management spend a significant amount of time engaging with our shareholders all year. This isn't just about proxy season. It is part of how we run our Firm.
With respect to shareholder proposals, I can assure you we carefully consider each proposal. Of course, the Board focuses on its fiduciary duty to advance long-term financial interests of shareholders. But more specifically, we engage with proponents to better understand their views. We weigh the relevance of the subject matter of their proposal in the context of our business and its value to long-term shareholders. We consider the potential costs and benefits and importantly, when a proposal does make a pragmatic and well-evidenced case, we have a strong track record of agreeing.
This year, this included an agreement with the New York City Comptroller. The Comptroller engaged with us constructively, actually for years on climate matters, and they always thought about them as a long-term shareholder, what it would mean for other long-term shareholders as well. So when they came to us to request that we disclose a clean-energy financing ratio, we viewed that as reasonable. We viewed it as pragmatic. And we viewed it as part of an ongoing dialogue. They didn't prescribe how we should conduct our business. It wasn't in conflict with long-term investor goals and it made a lot of sense to us.
Indeed, today, if you look at the ESG Report that we just issued, it reflects actually a lot of good feedback we've received over the years that comes from constructive dialogue with many people who are here today and shareholders broadly. But the fact is, we've also faced increasing proposals over many years. And many of the proposals we receive provide no assessment of how they promote the interests of shareholders. Some proposals provide no empirical evidence of financial effectiveness. Some proposals have solutions without identifying a failure or a material problem. Some ask us to adopt practices that aren't common among our peers and there are others that are based on assertions about the Firm that we believe are inaccurate or misleading. And those proposals we don't support.
Now, this does not detract from our core view. We strongly value shareholder engagement. We acknowledge the diverse opinions and have grown and improved as a company because of engagement with our shareholders. And as shareholders themselves fulfill their responsibility to independently review these proposals, we urge you to evaluate them as we did. Examine the facts. Weigh the relevance of the subject matter to our business. Weigh the costs of the proposal and assess whether the proposal has put forward evidence that will contribute to long-term shareholder value.
In short, our Firm is dedicated to sustainability in our business operations. We've woven it into our governance and oversight. We advocate for it in policy matters. And as fiduciaries when it comes to shareholder engagement, we make fact-based, independent decisions, always prioritizing the long-term interests of our shareholders.
We're grateful for the valuable insights gained through constructive shareholder engagement. It helps us grow. It helps us improve. And we thank you for your ongoing support and commitment to our pursuit of sustainable, inclusive growth and long-term shareholder value. On behalf of the Firm, we appreciate your continued engagement with JPMorgan Chase.